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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326755 - Mon May 20 2002 07:29 AM

Hmm.... to me, the problem does not seem to be the fear of heights, but something much worse, and a lot harder to get rid of.

Guilt.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326756 - Mon May 20 2002 02:00 PM

Don't animate beings find such revelations to be rather dangerous when they are fairly far along the y axis from ground level?

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326757 - Mon May 20 2002 02:38 PM

maybe someone is jamming his psychic powers. maybe it has to do with the shoes. maybe he has lost focus of what the dream really is. oh well. to mis-quote "garfield", whatever happpens, when cats fall, they always land on their feet. they just forget to mention the pain involved.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326758 - Mon May 20 2002 02:41 PM

maybe despite all his aloofness, zen-dao really did care for hollis. maybe he's burned out. maybe he needs to go see what manchia wants.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326759 - Mon May 20 2002 05:01 PM

Hollis is a cat, and he didn't land on his feet.

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      #326760 - Mon May 20 2002 07:01 PM

Yet another mirror of Hitchcock's "Vertigo", but instead of a fear of heights, it would appear that Zen Dao fears his own shortcomings...

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326761 - Mon May 20 2002 07:06 PM

I would say his failures, rather than his shortcomings. But I'm probably nit-picking.
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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326762 - Mon May 20 2002 07:19 PM

I agree with Quinch - it seems more like survivor's guilt than anything else.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326763 - Mon May 20 2002 09:34 PM

Actually, if you think about it, Hollis, guilt and Zen-Dao seem to run in cycles through the past-life parodies. The survivor's guilt that Zen-Dao probably feels right now is fairly obvious and could easily explain his current trauma. But he also had a large load of guilt concerning Hollis in "The Maltese Mandala." Folks may have forgotten it, but the reason Hollis died that time was because he lost his focus when confronted with his betrayal by Zen-Dao and his own wife.

Karma seems to continue to pile up between these two.


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      #326764 - Mon May 20 2002 09:45 PM

...and what goes around comes around, and we can only hope Hollis is a very forgiving spirit.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326765 - Tue May 21 2002 01:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Wind Wraith of the Wretched Wrags:
Hollis is a cat, and he didn't land on his feet.


I thought that Hollis was a racoon...

In any event, Zen-Dao had best deal with this issue pretty quick. He's many stories up with no other support than his powers, and facing the wrong way to easily grab the window.

Cat's may be able to land on their feet, but a high enough fall will still hurt them, or even prove fatal...

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326766 - Tue May 21 2002 02:16 AM

Racoon? I thought he looked pretty doggish to me...

By the way, GO WENDY!! Nice reflexes...

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      #326767 - Tue May 21 2002 04:44 AM



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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326768 - Tue May 21 2002 05:14 AM

Ah. I stand corrected then.
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      #326769 - Tue May 21 2002 10:06 AM

As do I, apparently, on my first two counts. Although the last sentance of my comment stands...

Yay, Zen-Dao! Good reflexes on your part too!

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326771 - Tue May 21 2002 12:52 PM

"Zen-Dao is not one with the Matrix, I 'spect."

(( ooc: I second the thoughts that his guilt keeps him from his former enlightenment. That sort of guilt can cripple a person mentally.. ))

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326772 - Tue May 21 2002 02:18 PM

One thing puzzles me, though... usually when we see Zen-Dao meditating, he is sitting in what I believe is called the Lotus position, where the body's weight rests on the... ahem, "tush", and feet are pulled inwards and rest just above the knees. Yet now, when he was levitating, albeit briefly, he was sitting what is here called Turkish style, with the weight on both the butt and ankles. Is it something of significance, a minor error, or just a matter of my own ignorance?

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326770 - Wed May 22 2002 12:25 AM

Why didn't Zen-Dao just lock his position on the Y axis so that he couldn't be moved closer to the ground plane? Or simply set a grouping with himself and the ground plane so that he would always maintain the same position relative to it?

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      #326773 - Thu May 23 2002 03:44 AM

Two things to know about cats and landing on feet...Both known from experence.
Cats can twist themselfs around in fall. They have a good chance of landing on there feet. But I knew a cat some idiot dropped from two storys up back first expecting the cat to flip. He went into shock at being dropped by somebody who should be watching out for his best intrests. He landed on his back.

I fell from a significantly greater distence. I controled the fall like a cat and landed on my feet.
That increases my survival but it did not insure it.
I brused my leggs so badly I couldn't walk for a week.

Holis bounced off stuff in mid fall so he'd already be dead before he hit the ground. Landing on feet is one nifty trick for a cat and really unlikely for a corps.

Zen Dao has a lot of issues to deal with.

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326774 - Sun May 26 2002 05:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 'Spect:
Why didn't Zen-Dao just lock his position on the Y axis so that he couldn't be moved closer to the ground plane? Or simply set a grouping with himself and the ground plane so that he would always maintain the same position relative to it?

Looks to me like he had set that lock, Spect, but it malfunctioned under stress.

Zen-Dao talks and thinks a lot about the illusions of the world around him. It helps to remember, though, that those illusions can seem extremely 'real' while being experienced. *shudders, thinking of the source of his pyrophobia* The more realistic the illusion, the more stress it puts on one's ignorance of altitude, gravity, etc. In this case, ignorance is bliss and a little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing.

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      #326775 - Mon May 27 2002 03:40 AM

As Calderon De La Barca so eloquently put it:


"(...) And thus we shall do,
for we are in such a singular world
That living is only dreaming;
And experience shows me
that the man that dreams dreams
what he is until he awakens.
Dreams the king that he is king, and lives
commanding with this deceit,
disposing and governing;
And the applause that he receives
is borrowed, and writes on the wind,
And death turns him into ashes (strong misfortune!)
!Who shall attempt to reign,
seeing that they will wake up
In the dream of death!
The rich man dreams of his wealth
that offers him care and luxury;
Dreams the poor man that suffers
his misery and his poverty;
Dreams he that begins to grow,
Dreams he that ambitions and pretends,
Dreams he that hurts and offends,
And in the world, in conclusion,
Everybody dreams who they are,
Although none understand it."
"(...)What is life? A frenzy
What is life? an illusion,
a shade, a fiction,
and the greater good is meager;
For all live is a dream,
And dreams, are only dreams"

---Calderon de la Barca "La Vida es Sueno", end of Second act.
y los sueños, sueños son.

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      #326776 - Mon May 27 2002 11:26 PM

::Sovan sighs from where he sits on a nearby rock:: "At any rate, it looks like Hollis' death left a deep mark on Zen-Dao's psyche--deep enough to prevent Zen-Dao from using his transcendental powers again." (Sighs and shakes his head) "I said it before, and I'll say it again--I feel sorry for Zen-Dao. Unless something drastic enough to make him shunt the painful memory aside and use his powers happens, or a miracle takes place, it'll be a long time before he fully recovers from the trauma of that incident--if he ever does."

::The golden-furred one leans back and strokes his chin thoughtfully:: "Hmm...this is just a shot in the dark, but I wonder if Val will play some role in helping Zen-Dao recover his mystical powers? From what I saw of the title page, it would seem that she plays a crucial role of some kind in this Past Life Parody..."

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Re: The source of Zen-Dao's unbalance seems to be becoming apparent... new
      #326777 - Tue May 28 2002 01:35 AM

Couldn't he adjust his Guilt parameter to a more suitable level?

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      #326778 - Tue May 28 2002 02:57 PM

most mortals have great difficulty with that paraticular adjustment. they either have it set 'way too low, or 'way too high.

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      #326779 - Tue May 28 2002 06:46 PM

And now we see a new fold-the comment about a CEO. That may not be considered important to this story, but I think it's a crucial set-up.....

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